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RE: [ontac-dev] Type vs. Class -- Please vote

To: ONTAC Taxonomy-Ontology Development Discussion <ontac-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Smith, Barry" <phismith@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:37:11 +0100
Message-id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060123103210.04646900@xxxxxxxxxxx>

> >
> > So you need a theory of individuals, which allows them to preserve
> > their identity over time, while gaining and losing parts.
>
>MW: I thought we all needed this. Or else how do you propose dealing
>with something as ordinary as a car when you change a tyre or its
>spark plugs.    (01)

The details are supplied in full in:    (02)

http://ontology.buffalo.edu/smith/articles/SNAP_SPAN.pdf    (03)

Basically, all instance-level x part_of y 
assertions for 3D objects are indexed by times.
This is not necessary for 4D objects, since 
processes do not gain and lose parts over time.    (04)

>MW: You could of course follow the approach you have outlined above
>and insist that there are no car-individuals, but only car-types.
>However, this is so counter-intuitive I imagine you have some other
>solution in mind that I await with interest.    (05)

See above.    (06)

>
> >
> > >MW: I see the set of all the rabbits for all time, the sets
> > of all rabbits
> > >for points or periods in time, and if you want, the
> > aggregate of their
> > >spatio-temporal extents (but these are not I think so interesting in
> > >this case).
> > >All have unchanging membership/parts.
> >
> > The species rabbit, then, is for you the set of all the rabbits which
> > ever existed, exist, or will exist.
>
>MW: Yes.
>
> > Does it include rabbit embryos and rabbit corpses? Or detached rabbit
> > arms?
>
>MW: You get to choose. What are your answers to those questions?    (07)

Touché    (08)


> > Is there something which all its members share in common (a
> > type, we might call it), in virtue of which it is such an interesting
> > object for biologists' study?
>
>MW: Yes. There are some common characteristics of all the members of the
>set which I can record against the set as a basis for recognising
>members when you see them.    (09)

So when you write:    (010)

'Harvey has the characteristics common to all and only the rabbits'    (011)

then I write    (012)

'Harvey instance_of rabbit'    (013)

Good.
BS     (014)



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