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RE: [soa-forum] Question/Issue for the SOA CoP

To: "Service-Oriented Architecture CoP" <soa-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Metz Rebekah" <metz_rebekah@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:47:59 -0400
Message-id: <4765FEE3DE3FBF408F8A6D0B53F362DE01B86194@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

I’ve read ahead to some additional emails on this thread so I’ve referenced some content from those emails also.

 

Rebekah Metz

Associate

Booz Allen Hamilton

Voice:  (703) 377-1471

Fax:     (703) 902-3457

 


From: soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ajit kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Service-Oriented Architecture CoP
Subject: Re: [soa-forum] Question/Issue for the SOA CoP

 

Chris,

 

Thanks for sharing your work. I must say I agree with you in so much as it addresses the necessary technology conditions that must be met to have a SOA paradigm, but the sufficiency has largely been ignored (may be based on assumption that people and process based practices will follow).

[->] This is a critical point ...the SOA paradigm is about aligning technology capabilities to ‘business’ capabilities.  Any of the three dimensions (people, process, technology) alone is necessary but insufficient to fully realize the benefits of SOA.  Today, many capabilities are still developed in a stove-piped manner.  But in the DOD, as well as elsewhere, there are initiatives already working to break down such stove-pipes to bring about service oriented transformation. 

 

I have been quite intrigued by the "SOA Buzz" industry wide but am concerned by the lack of understanding of the architecture (if viewed only from a technology viewpoint). The best practices should be addressed fundamentally from the view point of standard processes, people/organizational culture (a basic propensity to hinder change)and then overlay the technical layer on it. Also even on the technology front the standards are still in flux and the best efforts to integrate higher layer of the SOA protocol stack must rely on the WS Interoperability forum.

[->] I whole-heartedly agree that a focus on interoperability through industry standards is required.  But, even with the greater basis from WS-I forum, any enterprise (government, private or extended) must establish its strategy to achieving interoperability.  This strategy will often result in a feedback loop, from understanding needs and capabilities to profiling existing standards and eventually working with the industry standards bodies to include use cases that are particular to the needs and capabilities of the enterprise. 

 

Vendors are selling point solutions for the higher layer protocols and we will end up creating EAI equivalent of the SOA integration problem. Where will the values be in terms of reusability, etc. I believe the DoD and Government in general as part of the GIG/NC initiative must take the lead in coalescing multiple standards on all the fronts of people, process, and technology so as to start talking about best practices building blocks.

 

[->]The Enterprise Wide Systems Engineering Activity, spearheaded by ASD/NII and DISA, is already taking this lead. 

1.  Define essential enterprise-wide functions

2.  Establish a GIG interoperability performance framework

3.  Capture the key enterprise interoperability requirements

4.  Work closely with the commercial Internet IT industry and standard bodies to ensure DoD understanding of available and future commercial technologies that could support the GIG

5. Provide technical input to ...  joint portfolio management processes and investment decisions

6.  Involve the user community with the GIG development community through ongoing experimentation and rapidly developed pilot capabilities that enable informed user input

7.  Ensure program compliance with the GIG technical baseline through DoD CIO oversight and influence over DoD budget and acquisition processes

 

I look forward to other comments and potential recommendations. The result of this exercise should be, in my opinion, a roadmap from current SOA platform to the desired state with People, process and technologies roadmap defined in an evolutionary and standards way.

[->] As part of this activity, the Net Centric Implementation Documents (NCID) document the end-to-end requirements for performance, interoperability, and security, as well as essential network enabling protocols, standards and implementation conventions as part of the GIG technical baseline.  I would encourage FDCE to engage in this activity, especially as it relates to the GIG Enterprise Service Oriented Architecture Reference Model that you’ve excerpted in your attachment.   In fact several of the concepts related to sandboxing, certification, and lifecycle management are already being woven into NCIDv3.0. 

 

Best,

Rebekah

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:32 PM

Subject: RE: [soa-forum] Question/Issue for the SOA CoP

 

Brand, I’m working on a project sponsored by DISA Joint Interoperability Test Command.  A key component is the need to develop appropriate SOA implementation and validation and verification guidance.  The idea is to provide a useful service to GIG software developers that encourages re-use of best practices and code. 

 

The attached is a work in progress. 

 

So….1.  We have a mandate to do this work.  2. We have no “not-invented-here” issues. 3. We want to port as many industrial best practices as possible.  4.  We’re on a fast track.

 

We welcome any and all help from the SOA Forum.  The attached is very much a work in progress with no pride of authorship.

 

Best, Chris

 

Chris Gunderson

Research Associate Professor of Information Science

Naval Postgraduate School

Principal Investigator, W2COG and Netcentric Certification Office Initiatives

(O) 703 262 5332

(C) 831 224 5182

 

 

 

 


From: soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niemann.Brand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:08 PM
To: soa-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [soa-forum] Question/Issue for the SOA CoP

 

I have been asked about the ownership/governance issue and whether any best practices exist for SOA. We covered governance in the First SOA Conference for E-Government, but I don't recall specifically ownership being discussed. Any suggestions, references, etc. would be appreciated.

 

Thanks, Brand


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