RE: [soa-forum] Question/Issue for the SOA CoP

["Chris Gunderson" <chris.gunderson@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ajit, I’m not sure I understand all your nuance, but it seems we agree on much.  However, I’ve lost my taste for technology roadmaps.  “Where we’re going we don’t need maps!”   I think the result of this exercise should be 1. a dating service for folks with problems to solve to find folks with cool ideas; 2. A convenient playground for experimenting, where it’s possible to fail fast and cheap…and try again fast and cheap; 3. A referee who keeps the focus on demonstrable improvement, and keeps track of best practice; 4. A shopping center where the successful results can be evaluated and consumed.

 

Best, chris  

 

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From: soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ajit kapoor
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Service-Oriented Architecture CoP
Subject: Re: [soa-forum] Question/Issue for the SOA CoP

 

Chris,

 

Thanks for sharing your work. I must say I agree with you in so much as it addresses the necessary technology conditions that must be met to have a SOA paradigm, but the sufficiency has largely been ignored (may be based on assumption that people and process based practices will follow).

 

I have been quite intrigued by the "SOA Buzz" industry wide but am concerned by the lack of understanding of the architecture (if viewed only from a technology viewpoint). The best practices should be addressed fundamentally from the view point of standard processes, people/organizational culture (a basic propensity to hinder change)and then overlay the technical layer on it. Also even on the technology front the standards are still in flux and the best efforts to integrate higher layer of the SOA protocol stack must rely on the WS Interoperability forum. Vendors are selling point solutions for the higher layer protocols and we will end up creating EAI equivalent of the SOA integration problem. Where will the values be in terms of reusability, etc. I believe the DoD and Government in general as part of the GIG/NC initiative must take the lead in coalescing multiple standards on all the fronts of people, process, and technology so as to start talking about best practices building blocks.

 

I look forward to other comments and potential recommendations. The result of this exercise should be, in my opinion, a roadmap from current SOA platform to the desired state with People, process and technologies roadmap defined in an evolutionary and standards way.

 

regards,

ajit kapoor

Lockheed Martin

EIS/CTO

(retiring October 1, 2006)

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Gunderson

To: 'Service-Oriented Architecture CoP'

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:32 PM

Subject: RE: [soa-forum] Question/Issue for the SOA CoP

 

Brand, I’m working on a project sponsored by DISA Joint Interoperability Test Command.  A key component is the need to develop appropriate SOA implementation and validation and verification guidance.  The idea is to provide a useful service to GIG software developers that encourages re-use of best practices and code. 

 

The attached is a work in progress. 

 

So….1.  We have a mandate to do this work.  2. We have no “not-invented-here” issues. 3. We want to port as many industrial best practices as possible.  4.  We’re on a fast track.

 

We welcome any and all help from the SOA Forum.  The attached is very much a work in progress with no pride of authorship.

 

Best, Chris

 

Chris Gunderson

Research Associate Professor of Information Science

Naval Postgraduate School

Principal Investigator, W2COG and Netcentric Certification Office Initiatives

(O) 703 262 5332

(C) 831 224 5182

 

 

 

 

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From: soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niemann.Brand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:08 PM
To: soa-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [soa-forum] Question/Issue for the SOA CoP

 

I have been asked about the ownership/governance issue and whether any best practices exist for SOA. We covered governance in the First SOA Conference for E-Government, but I don't recall specifically ownership being discussed. Any suggestions, references, etc. would be appreciated.

 

Thanks, Brand

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