At 10:45 AM 2/1/2006, you wrote:
>It seemed obvious to me, however a few weeks ago someone disagreed, and
>stated that processes cannot change. (01)
This is right. Processes cannot change. Because processes ARE changes. (02)
> If they have different sub processes,
>each with a different set of identifiable attributes (contributing to
>differences in the process), does this not mean that the process can (and
>does) change over it's duration? (03)
Matthew changes as he grows older.
First he is a child. This means that he is a participant in that part
of his life (subprocess) called his childhood.
Then he (the same he) is an adult. This means that he is a
participant in that part of his life (subprocess) called his adult.
The whole process which is his life has (at least) these two parts. (04)
BS (05)
>Chuck
>
>
>ontac-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 02/01/2006 10:23:57 AM:
>
> > At 10:15 AM 2/1/2006, you wrote:
> > >If we are in agreement that a process ("Matthew living his life") has an
> > >object ("Matthew") that is modified to reach different states through
>that
> > >process - can not the process itself have different sub-processes (I
> > >believe the agreed to answer here is yes), and are those sub-processes
> > >distinguishable from each other through the exhibition of different
> > >attributes? This question was being discussed about a week or two back,
> > >before the group got preoccupied with defining a type.
> >
> > Yes of course.
> > Matthew's childhood is a subprocess of Matthew's life, in which
> > Matthew is involved throughout.
> > Matthew's childhood has different attributes from Matthew's
> > adulthood. For example his childhood began earlier.
> > BS
> >
> >
> > >Chuck
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >MW: If the pictures were of the same object, then they would all
>look
> > > > >the same, but they do not. This is because they are pictures of
>states
> > > > >of me at different times in my life. The states are different, and
>this
> > > > >is why the pictures are different, but the states are all states of
>my
> > > > >life, which is why they are all pictures of me.
> > > >
> > > > Aha: "pictures of states of me at different times in my life"
> > > > So Matthew HAS a life. And he (Matthew) is experiencing different
> > > > states at different times in this life.
> > > > Very good.
> > > > BS
> > >
> > >
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