RE: [soa-forum] Fw: [CAnet - news] SOA versus Web 2.0

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@xxxxxxx>]

Thanks Susan. Here is another excellent piece on this very topic from late last week, from SOA analyst Joe McKendrick:

 

http://www.webservices.org/weblog/joe_mckendrick/web_2_0_or_soa_web_2_0_and_soa_let_the_debate_begin_part_2

 

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FYI - 
I wasn't aware of consternation between SOA and Web 2.0. 
 I just think of open API mash-ups as SOA-lite. 
Susan 

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[Some 
excerpts from Jon Hagel's blog. Thanks to a contributor who wishes to
remain 
anonymous-- 
BSA]

http://edgeperspectives.typepad.com/edge_perspectives/2006/04/soa_versus_web
_.html

SOA 
Versus Web 2.0?

As I indicated in my previous posting, a cultural chasm 
separates these two
technology communities, despite the fact that they both 
rely heavily on the
same foundational standard - XML. The evangelists for SOA 
tend to dismiss
Web 2.0 technologies as light-weight "toys" not suitable for 
the "real" work
of enterprises.  The champions of Web 2.0 technologies, 
on the other hand,
make fun of the "bloated" standards and architectural 
drawings generated by
enterprise architects, skeptically asking whether SOAs 
will ever do real
work.

Both Web 2.0 and SOA technologies re-conceive 
software as services. Perhaps
even more importantly, they view services as 
platforms.  Rather than viewing
services as standalone offers designed 
to be consumed exactly as written,
both sets of technologies start with the 
vision that the role of any service
is ultimately to become the building 
block for even more services that will
be built on top of the original 
service.

Amazon provides an early, and very limited, example of this 
opportunity.  By
developing an affiliate program and offering a book 
buying service that can
be embedded into other web sites, Amazon has been 
able to significantly
expand its reach and create a much more robust platform 
for driving
e-commerce activity.

The growing appeal of Web 2.0 
technologies in part stems from this hijacking
of SOAs.  Line executives 
within the enterprise are experiencing mounting
frustration over the 
escalating hype around SOAs, the growing spending over
SOA design initiatives 
and the relatively limited business impact achieved
by SOA deployments. 
 In contrast, Web 2.0 initiatives are leading to a
proliferation of 
mashups (one form of composition), as described by Dion
Hinchcliffe in "The 
Web 2.0 Mashup Ecosystem Ramps Up" and "Some Predictions
for the Coming 
'Mashosphere' "


Does this mean SOAs are DOA? Not at all.  SOAs 
still provide a valuable
foundation to support the sustained relationships 
required for distributed
creation.  But these SOAs need to be deployed 
in a much more incremental and
pragmatic way.  Perhaps a little 
competition from Web 2.0 technologies will
help to break the logjam and force 
both IT departments and IT consultants to
adapt their culture and operations 
to growing business pressure for
accelerated impact and learning.

As 
JSB and I discuss in much more detail in The Only Sustainable Edge, 
the
convergence of SOAs, virtualization architectures and Web 2.0 
social
software will drive the next wave of value creation within and 
across
enterprises.  The convergence will not unfold smoothly, as much 
of the
current debate confirms, but it will take place - there is too much at 
stake
and each of these technology arenas offers something distinctive 
in
supporting next generation business 
platforms.





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