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RE: [soa-forum] FW: SOA Demo Straw man technical artifacts

To: "Service-Oriented Architecture CoP" <soa-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:10:00 -0400
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Joe, to what extent will your specification of a BPEL element to the demo address the orchestration and discovery aspects of SOA?
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I should clarify that it will be our specification of a BPEL element, not mine personally:)
 
On orchestration: BPEL is a specification/emerging standard for orchestartion.
 
On discovery: The current WS-BPEL spec does not go into discovery in great length (they mention it briefly and reference UDDI), but I believe it can be understood that the services that are orchestrated may be registered/maintained in one or more service registries, and discovered from those service registries.
 
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From: soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul S Prueitt
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:39 PM
To: Service-Oriented Architecture CoP
Subject: RE: [soa-forum] FW: SOA Demo Straw man technical artifacts

the purpose of my suggestion is that that "such as" does not have an implied
 
orchestration of service fulfillment
and
discovery of service elements
 
demonstration 
 
 
Joe, to what extent will your specification of a BPEL element to the demo address the orchestration and discovery aspects of SOA?
 
Will the web service description language (WSDL) use demonstrate an interface to a small ontology? 
 
Might the demo suggest how an ontology interface might be created.....  and might the demo suggest how service discovery might occur in the context of everyday business interactions?
 
And then lastly, orchestration can be applied to many different aspects of service interactions...  even to the original definition of new services or uniquely specified service request and responses - in real time.
 
 
I find the work done by Cory and Joe wonderful.....  and a good basis for extending the demo?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soa-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Paul S Prueitt
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:30 PM
To: Service-Oriented Architecture CoP
Subject: RE: [soa-forum] FW: SOA Demo Straw man technical artifacts

 
the the Approach section of
 
 
 
i suggest replacing
 
Model Driven Architecture techniques will be used to model the community and produce technology interfaces such as WSDL-SOA interfaces, Ws-Security and BPEL business processes –
 
with
 
Model Driven Architecture techniques will be used to model the community and produce technology interfaces that use
 
WSDL-SOA interfaces,
Ws-Security and
BPEL business processes
 
 
the such as is vague and the "that use" is specific (reducing the vagueness)
 
 
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