At 06:14 PM 1/13/2006, you wrote:
>Dear Barry,
>
> > I also submit that, given the need to acquire users of whatever
> > results from our work, most of whom will not be specialists in
> > ontology, the need to be consistent with a four-dimensionalist
> > ontology according to which there are no dogs but only doggy
> > processes, is not a sensible constraint.
>
>If this gross misrepresentation of a 4D position were true then
>this might be reasonable. Fortunately it is just a misrepresentation
>which you rather boringly put on 4 Dimensionalists so that you can
>make fun of it. It is an old trick which I find not really very
>clever. (01)
I was just quoting you yourself, Matthew: (02)
>Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:27:33 -0000
>From: "West, Matthew R SIPC-DFD/321" <matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >How do you express:
> > > > > "Fido is a dog."
> > >
> > >MW: Fido classified_as dog
> > >
> > >MW: Fido names a possible_individual (spatio-temporal extent) (we do
> > >not know from the context whether or not it is an actual_individual, i.e.
> > >part of our world, or hypothetical, i.e. part of some other
> > possible_world).
> >
> > > >MW: Fido is both a physical_object and an activity (living process).
> >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > "All dogs are animals."
> > > >
> > > > for all x, if x instance_of dog then x instance_of animal
> > > >
> > > > for short:
> > > > dog is_a animal
> > >
> > >MW: Agreed (but remembering there are two "dog"s).
> >
> >
> > So two Fidos? Does Bill Clinton have two daughters?
>
>MW: You missinterpret. I mean there are two dog classes, one with my
>4D extents, and one with your 3D continuant. If we don't distinguish these
>classes, then we could indeed double count. (03)
... (04)
>MW: Well I talk to myself, and I am my living process. (05)
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