Re: [cuo-wg] A Concrete Example of Ontological Interoperability

["Adrian Walker" <adriandwalker@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jim & All --

The discussion so far is most interesting, at a general level.  

In such a general discussion, it's sometimes useful to anchor things with specific examples.

Here is one such:

|  Yongchun Gao wrote:
|  Suppose someone developed an ontology by OWL, in which 'humans' is a
|  class and has 'hasGender' as a property ( value=male/female ) . A man
|  could be an instance of 'humans' which 'hasGender' of 'male'. It can
|  work well.
|  Suppose another expert developed an ontology by OWL too, in which
|  'humans' and 'animals' are classes, but 'females' and 'males' are
|  classes too ( can be attached to both 'animals' and 'humans' ) , and
|  'men' is just two subclass of both 'humans' and 'males'. It may work
|  too.
|  But the problem here is HOW to unite these two different OWL files
|  which tell the same ontology?

There's an Executable English solution in

    www.reengineeringllc.com/demo_agents/MergeOntologies1.agent

Would the OWL folks like to show such an executable solution in OWL?  If so, it would be good please to see a scenario of how the OWL solution could  have happened through social interaction and economic pressure.

We should bear in mind too that the above example is orders of magnitude smaller and conceptually simpler than what would be need for Jim's enterprise-wide interoperability requirement.

Does anyone have concrete examples closer to Jim's requirement?  (With any confidential information obfuscated, of course.)

Hope this helps,    -- Adrian
 

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On 2/7/07, ajit kapoor <ajitorsarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I would say it's not about the size of the organization but limited by
domain knowledge. Cross domains will have difficulty but it is not due to
technology limitation but the maturity of a interoperable infobase of
ontology.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Schoening, James R C-E LCMC CIO/G6" < James.Schoening@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'common upper ontology working group'" <cuo-wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: [cuo-wg] Technical maturity of Semantic Web approach to
DataInteroperabil ity


> Pat and others,
>
> Would you agree the Semantic Web approach to data interoperability shows
> great promise, but is not ready for large organizations to implement as a
> solution for data sharing across their many domains?
>
> Jim Schoening
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Hayes [mailto:phayes@xxxxxxx ]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:53 PM
> To: Schoening, James R C-E LCMC CIO/G6
> Subject: RE: [cuo-wg] Technical maturity of Semantic Web solution
>
>>  Pat,
>> I agree this is not the best model, but for our purposes, I suggest it
>>is good enough.
>>Perhaps you (or someone) could cite some recent demonstrations and
>>whether they were in a laboratory, relevant, or operational
>>environment.
>>
>> I'd also be in favor of doing a version of this model for semantic
>>interoperability.
>>
>> I'm guessing the Semantic Web approach you describe works well in a
>>small scale or a laboratory environment, but that there is no evidence
>>(yet) it could scale up.
>
> I don't think its ever been tried in a
> small-scale setting. All the Sweb ontologies are on the actual Web, for
> which there is no laboratory as such. Of course, there are many that
> nobody else uses, or were built as toy demonstrations, etc..
>
> The best application/POC demo Ive seen of the approach is the FOAF
> project.
>
> Pat
>
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