ExpeditionWorkshop/ThemeThree Using The Science Of Science Policy To Address National Priorities SessionOne 2008 12 17

Collaborative Expedition Workshop #79, The Science of Science Policy    (40WJ)

Theme Three: Using the Science of Science Policy to Address National Priorities, Session One, December 17, 2008    (40WK)

• 8. What impact does science have on innovation and competitiveness?    (40X9)
• 9. How competitive is the U.S. scientific workforce?    (40XA)
• 10. What is the relative importance of different policy instruments in science policy?    (40XB)

• Tool 3    (40Y3)

• We can say the we need to competitive. But if we don't have an instrument that provides funding -- it has to be a tool that channels things -- then all of the other things are just a conversation.    (412E)

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• Science comes first.    (412G)
  • Basic research.    (412H)
  • Applied research.    (412I)

• Underlying science is what drives innovation.    (412J)

• What is the difference between invention and innovation?    (412K)
  • Invention is about scientific discovery.    (412L)
  • Innovation is in the marketplace, commercialized. Innovation drives competitiveness. It is the engine of competitive growth.    (412M)

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• Why do we have competitiveness as a value?    (412O)
• Should we focus more on collaboration than competetiveness    (412P)

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• Are we putting out the best product at the best value?    (412R)
• That's what we mean by competitiveness.    (412S)
• As we move into a global economy with this recession, so yes, we need more collaboration.    (412T)

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• Maybe science policy should be geared more towards being collaborative?    (412V)

• How about the idea being "precompetitive"?    (412W)

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• We assume that a marketplace brings out the best in us.    (412Y)
• Pre-competitive collaboration.    (412Z)
• In a competitive environment, there are winners and losers.    (4130)

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• Competitive invention.    (4132)
• Collaborative innovation.    (4133)

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• Stovepipe vs. Windchime    (4135)

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• Competitiveness or    (4137)
• Competence or    (4138)
• Aptitude    (4139)

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• Dangers of collaboration with China    (413B)

• Collaboration in a non-trusted environment can be risky.    (413C)

• Advanced technology program.    (413D)

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• Forking in open source communities.    (413F)

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• How competitive is the US scientific workforce?    (413H)
• Does this include scientists, engineers, what?    (413I)

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• The knowledge economy will lead us forward.    (413K)
• Intellectual manufacturing.    (413L)
• We use this as a crude measure    (413M)

• Measurements:    (413N)
  • number of engineering graduates    (413O)
  • number of patents being generated    (413P)
  • how many startups are founded    (413Q)

• Perhaps, watching green    (413R)

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• How do you move from a manufacturing economy to an information economy.    (413T)
• How do you retrain those people?    (413U)

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• First, a conversation among agencies.    (413W)
• Then, figure out if there is agreement.    (413X)

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• Politics is 2 or 4 years.    (413Z)
• Policy is longer term.    (4140)

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• Ideology has been hands off lately.    (4142)
• The new ideology is very hands on.    (4143)
• The idea that we are becoming socialist is nothing new.    (4144)
• The best economic models right now are capitalist-communism.    (4145)

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• Startup scene perhaps is on a 3 month time window. Out for 3 months and you miss it.    (4147)
• However, in turns of long-term support of engineeering, science, it requires a systematic effort.    (4148)
• Competitiveness over time.    (4149)

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• I've seen a degradation of the DOE labs over time    (414B)

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• Oil reserves are decreasing.    (414D)
• Science policy about energy.    (414E)

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• Cell phone batteries.    (414G)
• Transferring to car batteries.    (414H)

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• Exxon bought out the above patents -- because they were a threat to the existing business model.    (414J)

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• some 10 year goals    (414L)
• some 50 year goals    (414M)

===== Reconvene at 1:30 pm    (414N)

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• Is the "science" aspect of S&T policy for:    (414P)
• selling it to policy makers    (414Q)
• innovation    (414R)

• Does the science of science & technology policy actually drive innovation?    (414S)