[soa-forum] Call for Participation -- Balisage: The Markup Conference

[Paul Prueitt <psp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Many within the web ontology and knowledge engineering community agree with Klausner's statement, including John Sowa.  John has his own way of stating a very similar description about the nature of the limitations of XML and RDF.  The fundamental argument is that XML and RDF (resource description framework) has some qualities related to adding new syntax or semantics in real time.  These are positive in a relative sense, when compared with relational database schema and data modeling practices.  It is true, XML and RDF do have qualities that improve over fixed data base schema, and which lead us further in the direction of model oriented service provision.  

However, the in-adequacies of XML and RDF are compounded when SOA is not completely vendor agnostic (as recommended by Thomas Erl and others) AND there is a competition for ownership.   The reason is the current monopoly by vested interests.  Because there is so much money at stake, the non-interoperability is persistent.  So we are faced with paradoxical economic and political realities.  

I believe that the Blank Slate Internet project (Stanford and NSF) should be looked at as government provided even playing field for services; similar to the Interstate Highway System. In this way, a new set of standards, not depending on the current limitations in XML and RDF might be put into place and eliminate the non-interoperability designed into the current practice.  

I would be happy to moderate a panel on this topic in August 11th, in Montreal.  Anyone wishing to be part of this panel, please contact me at psp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  

On Jan 17, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Sandy Klausner wrote:

Chuck,

Interesting conference which acknowledges the severe limitations of the XML substrate. Jon Bosak is considered the "Father of XML." I had a two-hour private meeting with him at least six years ago where he even then admitted these shortcomings! What the XML community has not internalized is that putting more lipstick on the pig will not solve these fundamental infrastructure problems. What's really interesting is the conference Call for Participation scope only addresses a portion of the challenges and for example does not include the processing efficiency requirement that can only effectively be accomplished through a semantic Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) architecture. The XML pig can never fly!

Sandy

Begin forwarded message:

From: jon.bosak@xxxxxxx

Date: January 17, 2008 6:15:30 AM PST

To: ebxml-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [ebxml-dev] Fw: Call for Participation -- Balisage: The Markup Conference

See below for a description of the only conference designed

specifically for XML experts.

The conference will be preceded on 11 August by an

International Symposium on Versioning XML Documents and

Vocabularies.  See page 2 of the flier at

   http://www.balisage.net/Handouts/Balisage-Versioning-flier1.pdf

This will be, as far as I know, the first international symposium

to address the problem of XML versioning.

Jon

==================================================================

Montréal in August has always been the place and time for serious

markup geeks to meet, and this year there's an all-new conference

for them.

Balisage is a peer reviewed conference designed to meet the needs

of markup theoreticians and practitioners who are pushing the

boundaries of the field. It's all about the markup: how to create

it; what it means; hierarchies and overlap; modeling; taxonomies;

transformation; query, searching, and retrieval; presentation and

accessibility; making systems that make markup dance (or dance

faster to a different tune in a smaller space) - in short,

changing the world and the web through the power of marked-up

information.

It's an XML Conference. It's an XSL Conference.  It's a conference

about SGML, LMNL, XSL-FO, XTM, RDF, XQuery, SVG, MathML, OWL, UBL,

XSD, TexMECS, RNG, and a lot more. We welcome papers about topic

maps, document modeling, markup of overlapping structures,

ontologies, metadata, content management, and other markup-related

topics at Balisage.

We welcome papers about topic maps, document modeling, markup of

overlapping structures, ontologies, metadata, content management,

and other markup-related topics at Balisage. If you want to talk,

in detail, about XML, XSL, SGML, LMNL, XSL-FO, XTM, RDF, XQuery,

SVG, MathML, OWL, UBL, XSD, TexMECS, RNG, or any other

markup-related topic, we urge you to participate in Balisage.

How:

      Submit full papers in XML to info@xxxxxxxxxxxx

      Guidelines, details, and schemas at

      http://www.balisage.net/submissions.html

Schedule:

     15 March 2008 - Peer Review Applications Due

     18 April 2008 - Paper Submissions Due

     20 May 2008 - Speakers Notified

     18 July 2008 - Revised Papers Due

     11 August 2008 - Versioning Symposium

     12-15 August 2008 - Balisage: The Markup Conference

If you have any questions about Balisage send email to

mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxx

-- 

======================================================================

Balisage: The Markup Conference 2008          mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxx

August 12-15, 2008                             http://www.balisage.net

Versioning Symposium: August 11, 2008                 Montreal, Canada

======================================================================

 _________________________________________________________________
Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Config: http://colab.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/soa-forum/
Shared Files: http://colab.cim3.net/file/work/soa/
Community Portal: http://colab.cim3.net/
Community Wiki: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AnnouncementofSOACoP    (01)