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[cuo-wg] FW: Common Upper Ontology Meeting Notes

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From: "Broome, Barbara (Civ,ARL/CISD)" <bdbroome@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:14:23 -0500
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Jim,
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Nice meeting.  
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Let me just follow up with a couple of points regarding the issues discussed.
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(1)  Your point about not repeating the mistakes that the AI community made is 
very valid.  The AI community overcommitted, and then when they made strides 
forward they got very little credit because expections were higher than the 
deliverables could support.  When we talk about Ontologies supporting 
machine-to-machine interoperability, I think we begin to make our goals sound 
too big.  More humbly, there are two important tasks that these Ontologies 
should support in a netcentric computing environment:  (a) heterogeneous data 
integration; and (b) automatic service discovery.  There may be other 
tasks...but these two cover a pretty big chunk of  the "interoperability" 
problem.
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(2)  I mentioned concerns that there's more payoff with the lower level 
Ontologies than with the upper level.  When we used an "Upper Ontology" for the 
STO, we chose GH-5 (C2IEDM) and converted it to OWL.  Now that is a 
considerably lower level ontology (i.e., more specific to our problem) than you 
are addressing with SUMO, PSYC, and DOLCE.  I gather from the discussion that 
this would be a "Middle Ontology."  Later, when we actually went to integrate 2 
data sources, we found the real work was still tied to the data. GH-5 helps 
some, but you still have to extend it to get an Ontology than can really be 
used to access multiple heterogeneous data sources.  Similarly, if we wanted to 
do automatic service discovery, we would have to do a lot of work to insure the 
right terms are defined well enough to support discovery of the kinds of 
services we're interested in.  I'm not saying that Upper Ontologies are not 
important.  I am saying that, within DoD we may want to focus on establishing 
several quality Middle Ontologies and figure out how to incorporate them into 
our systems.  That certainly is difficult enough to sit in the research 
arena... but is DoD-specific enough to mean that the general research community 
will probably not address it without DoD funding.  And this bit of focus may 
help us to avoid the AI problem discussed above.
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Best regards,
Barbara
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        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Schoening, James R CECOM DCSC4I 
[mailto:James.Schoening@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Thu 11/18/2004 2:13 PM 
        To: Broome, Barbara (Civ,ARL/CISD) 
        Cc: 
        Subject: RE: Common Upper Ontology Meeting Notes
    (07)


        Barbara,
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            Good points.  You should post them to the group at 
cuo-wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    (09)

        Jim
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